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Trip from The Bronx, NY to New York Mills, NY

Compiled and reviewed by the Trip.ovh planning team at COD Solutions Oy · Last reviewed Apr 18, 2026 · Editorial standards

Drive Time

4h 48m

Distance

237.7 mi

383 km

Drive Score

9/10

Great drive

Same Day?

Yes, doable

Fuel Cost

$39

one way

EV Charging

Good

8 stations

Best Time to Leave

Save up to 40 min
4 AM
4h 35m ★
6 AM
4h 48m
8 AM
5h 15m
10 AM
4h 58m
12 PM
4h 55m
3 PM
4h 59m
5 PM
5h 14m
8 PM
4h 40m

Estimated drive times based on typical traffic patterns. Actual times may vary with weather, construction, and real-time conditions.

borough of New York City, New York, United States

The Bronx, NY

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Downtown New York Mills, NY, NY

New York Mills, NY

Clément Proust

Trip Overview

Embarking on the 237.7-mile journey from The Bronx to New York Mills is a significant undertaking that typically takes about 4 hours and 48 minutes of travel time. Because this route is entirely composed of local roads rather than high-speed interstates, it functions best as a focused day trip for those comfortable with a turn-heavy driving experience. You should budget approximately $38 for fuel to cover the distance between these two Northeast locations. While the trip is feasible in a single day, the intensity of navigating local thoroughfares means you should plan for at least one dedicated stop to stretch your legs. Overall, this is a practical trip for drivers who prefer a hands-on navigation style over the standard highway grind.

Trip Pace

Same-day drive is realistic

A same-day return is possible, but it will make for a full day on the road.

Break Rhythm

1 planned break

Plan on a short reset every 3 to 4 hours to stay fresh behind the wheel.

Midpoint

118.8 miles from The Bronx, NY

A natural place for your longest stop of the day , about 2h 25m into the drive .

About the Cities

Starting in The Bronx, NY

Full guide →

“The Boogie Down” · Founded 1898

The Bronx is one of the five boroughs of New York. Known for Yankee Stadium, the home field of the New York Yankees baseball team, it has been a borough of New York City since 1898. The vast Bronx Zoo houses hundreds of species of animals. Nearby, the sprawling New York Botanical Garden features a landmark greenhouse with rainforest and cactus displays. By the Hudson River, Wave Hill is a landscaped public garden with wooded paths and a cultural center.

Top landmarks

  • New York Botanical Garden — botanical garden in the Bronx, New York City
  • Woodlawn Cemetery — cemetery in the Bronx, New York City
  • Hall of Fame for Great Americans — architectural structure

Arriving in New York Mills, NY

Full guide →

Utica is the heart of the Mohawk Valley and the seat of Oneida County in Central New York State. Utica offers the charm of small-city living balanced with the cultural and ethnic diversity of an international urban center. At the foot of the Adirondack Mountains, Utica is a truly scenic city that offers the pleasures of both a rural and urban setting.

City content from Wikivoyage (CC BY-SA 4.0) and Wikidata (CC0).

Who Is This Route For?

Weekend Trip

Doable as a same-day drive at 4h 48m. Total distance: 237.7 miles.

Family Friendly

Moderate complexity with 1 natural rest stops along the way.

Solo Traveler

4h 48m drive, comfortable solo distance.

Drive Character

Expect a very different experience than your typical interstate cruise, as this route maintains a 0% highway share. You will be navigating a turn-heavy local drive that relies on surface streets like Bronxdale Avenue, Hunt Avenue, and Rhinelander Avenue to get you to your destination. Because there are no long highway stretches, your longest uninterrupted driving segment is effectively 0 miles on Bronxdale Avenue. This creates a highly engaging, albeit demanding, environment behind the wheel that requires your constant attention to local signage and intersections. Prepare for a steady, technical pace that keeps you fully involved in the mechanics of the drive from start to finish.

Most of the miles stay on highways, which makes pacing and fuel planning easier than turn-by-turn city driving.
There are about 36 navigation steps in the underlying route data, so the final approach matters more than the middle miles.
NY 17 is the longest continuous segment at about 117.5 miles.

Elevation Profile

Gently rolling terrain

625 ft 53 ft

Total Climb

1,311 ft

Total Descent

899 ft

Highest Point

625 ft

~67.9 mi in

Elevation Range

572 ft

How Hard Is This Drive?

This route mixes highway mileage with some local-road sections near the start or finish. This route has several spots where lane changes, forks, or exits need your full attention. The trickiest moment comes around 6.8 miles in.

Driving Effort 10/10

High effort - long or complex enough to need steady focus all day

Balances navigation complexity with total wheel time.

This is a demanding drive. With 26 significant decision points across 237.7 miles, you will need to stay alert - especially through interchange areas and urban stretches. Consider splitting it into segments if you are not comfortable with fast highway navigation.

Where does it get tricky?

The main spots that need attention: at 6.8 miles: Exit ramp - move to the correct lane early. Lane positioning matters here. Multiple destination signs - pick the right one; at 7 miles: Highway fork - watch signs carefully. Lane positioning matters here; at 13.8 miles: Exit ramp - move to the correct lane early. Lane positioning matters here. Multiple destination signs - pick the right one.

Critical Maneuvers

5 of 26 key points

These are the spots where you need to pay the most attention. Preview them before you drive.

8
6.8 mi into trip | ~12m in

Take the exit toward I 95 South, NJTP South: Hackensack

Exit ramp - move to the correct lane early. Lane positioning matters here. Multiple destination signs - pick the right one

Use the straight / slight right lanes. Toward I 95 South, NJTP South: Hackensack
9
7 mi into trip | ~12m in

Keep slight right at fork toward NJ 4 West: Paramus

Highway fork - watch signs carefully. Lane positioning matters here

Use the slight left / slight right lanes. Exit 72A Toward NJ 4 West: Paramus
7
13.8 mi into trip | ~22m in

Take the exit toward GSP South, NJ 17 South, GSP North, NJ 17 North: Grand State Plaza, Newark, Mahwah

Exit ramp - move to the correct lane early. Lane positioning matters here. Multiple destination signs - pick the right one

Use the straight lane. Toward GSP South, NJ 17 South, GSP North, NJ 17...
8
14 mi into trip | ~22m in

Keep slight right at fork toward NJ 17 North: Mahwah

Highway fork - watch signs carefully. Lane positioning matters here

Use the straight / slight right lanes. Toward NJ 17 North: Mahwah
8
29.1 mi into trip | ~42m in | NY 17

Keep slight left at fork onto NY 17 toward I 87 North, NY 17 North, New York State Thruway North: Albany

Highway fork - watch signs carefully. Lane positioning matters here. Multiple destination signs - pick the right one

Use the straight / slight right lanes. Toward I 87 North, NY 17 North, New York State...

Towns Mentioned on Route Signs

Based on OSRM destination-sign hints, not a full list of every settlement the road passes.

Between The Bronx, NY and New York Mills, NY, road signs point toward Gsp South, Gsp North, Newark, Mahwah and New York State Thruway North: Albany.

Gsp South

13.8 mi in | ~22m

Gsp North

13.8 mi in | ~22m

Newark

13.8 mi in | ~22m

Mahwah

13.8 mi in | ~22m

New York State Thruway North: Albany

29.1 mi in | ~42m | via NY 17

Main Roads

Road Distance Duration
NY 17 117.5 mi 2h 15m
New York State Thruway 85.1 mi 1h 38m
NJ 17 14.7 mi 18m
NJ 4 6.7 mi 9m
Cross Bronx Expressway 2.6 mi 3m
Oriskany Street West 2.1 mi 4m
I 95 EXPR 1.2 mi 1m
North Genesee Street 1 mi 1m
Longest stretch: NY 17 — 117.5 mi, about 2h 15m

Turn-by-Turn Driving Directions

Step-by-step road directions between The Bronx, NY and New York Mills, NY.

1

Start on Cruger Avenue

398 ft · 30 sec · Cruger Avenue
2

Turn sharp right onto Bronxdale Avenue

384 ft · 15 sec · Bronxdale Avenue
3

Turn right onto Hunt Avenue

0.2 mi · 38 sec · Hunt Avenue
4

At end of road, turn right onto Rhinelander Avenue

0.1 mi · 30 sec · Rhinelander Avenue
5

Continue on Unionport Road

0.2 mi · 32 sec · Unionport Road
6

Turn right onto Morris Park Avenue

0.5 mi · 1 min · Morris Park Avenue
7

Turn right onto East Tremont Avenue

0.2 mi · 41 sec · East Tremont Avenue
8

Turn left onto East 177th Street

413 ft · 13 sec · East 177th Street
9

Turn right onto Sheridan Boulevard

506 ft · 8 sec · Sheridan Boulevard
Toward NY 895 South, I 95 South
10

Take the ramp

0.2 mi · 20 sec
Toward I 95 South: Cross Bronx Expressway, George Washington Bridge
11

Merge onto I 95

2.6 mi · 3 min · Cross Bronx Expressway
Use the straight / slight right lanes.
12

Keep slight left at fork onto I 95; US 1

0.7 mi · 1 min · Trans-Manhattan Expressway
Toward Upper Level
13

Continue on I 95; US 1

0.6 mi · 59 sec · George Washington Bridge (upper level)
14

Continue on I 95 EXPR; US 1 EXPR; US 9 EXPR

0.5 mi · 48 sec · I 95 EXPR; US 1 EXPR; US 9 EXPR
15

Keep slight left at fork onto I 95 EXPR; US 1 EXPR; US 9 EXPR

0.6 mi · 39 sec · I 95 EXPR; US 1 EXPR; US 9 EXPR
Use the straight / slight right lanes.
16

Keep slight left at fork onto I 95 EXPR; NJTP

0.1 mi · 8 sec · I 95 EXPR; NJTP
17

Take the exit

0.2 mi · 22 sec
Toward I 95 South, NJTP South: Hackensack Use the straight / slight right lanes.
18

Keep slight right at fork

0.2 mi · 23 sec
Exit 72A Toward NJ 4 West: Paramus Use the slight left / slight right lanes.
19

Merge onto NJ 4

6.7 mi · 9 min · NJ 4
Use the slight right lane.
20

Take the exit

0.2 mi · 26 sec
Toward GSP South, NJ 17 South, GSP North, NJ 17 North: Grand State Plaza, Newark, Mahwah Use the straight lane.
21

Keep slight right at fork

0.2 mi · 36 sec
Toward NJ 17 North: Mahwah Use the straight / slight right lanes.
22

Merge onto NJ 17

3.3 mi · 4 min · NJ 17
Use the straight / slight right lanes.
23

Continue on NJ 17

7.3 mi · 9 min · NJ 17
Use the straight / right lanes.
24

Continue on NJ 17

0.7 mi · 50 sec · NJ 17
25

Continue on NJ 17

3.3 mi · 4 min · NJ 17
26

Continue on I 287; NY 17

0.2 mi · 10 sec · I 287; NY 17
27

Keep slight left at fork onto NY 17

118 mi · 2 hr 15 min · NY 17
Toward I 87 North, NY 17 North, New York State Thruway North: Albany Use the straight / slight right lanes.
28

Keep slight left at fork onto I 90

85 mi · 1 hr 38 min · New York State Thruway
Toward I 90 West: Buffalo
29

Take the exit

0.8 mi · 1 min
Toward I 790, NY 8, NY 12: Utica Use the slight right lane.
30

Keep slight left at fork

0.5 mi · 1 min
31

Keep slight right at fork

159 ft · 3 sec
32

Turn slight right onto North Genesee Street

1.0 mi · 1 min · North Genesee Street
33

Turn right onto NY 5S

2.1 mi · 4 min · Oriskany Street West
34

Continue on NY 5A

0.8 mi · 1 min · Oriskany Boulevard
35

Turn left onto Main Street

0.8 mi · 1 min · Main Street
36

Arrive at destination

Main Street

Trip Plan

Given the local nature of the roads, your best strategy is to depart early in the morning to avoid the densest traffic patterns often found on non-highway routes. Since the drive covers nearly five hours without the benefit of high-speed transit, build in at least one planned break to maintain your focus and comfort. Keep an eye on your fuel gauge, as local roads can lead to more frequent stops and idling, and ensure your $38 fuel budget is ready before you head out. Because you are navigating local avenues like Rhinelander and Hunt, using a reliable GPS is essential to manage the constant turns efficiently. This flexibility allows you to adjust your pace as needed throughout the 237.7-mile journey.

Morning Departure

An early start around 7-8 AM gets you there with plenty of daylight left.

Evening Departure

A late afternoon start means arriving after dark. Morning is better.

You can normally do this drive in one day.
Plan roughly 1 meaningful break for fuel, food, and rest.
The halfway point lands around 118.8 miles from The Bronx, NY, or about 2h 25m into the drive.
The longest continuous stretch on this route runs about 117.5 miles.

This is a comfortable same-day trip.

Departure

Before you leave

Start with fuel, water, and navigation already sorted so the first hour feels easy.

First stop

Around 52 miles or 1h 8m in

Use this first pause for coffee, a restroom break, and a quick traffic check ahead.

Halfway reset

Around 118.8 miles or 2h 25m in

This is the best place for your longest stop, a real meal, and a full fuel check.

Final approach

Final hour starts around 3h 53m

Traffic, exits, and arrival timing usually matter more near New York Mills, NY than in the middle of the route.

Before You Leave

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Open the route before leaving The Bronx, NY so your first major turns are already loaded.

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Leave with enough water and a charging cable within reach, not packed away.

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Check your fuel range against the first long segment, especially if you are starting outside city service areas.

Day 1

Settle into the route from The Bronx, NY

This is one driving day of about 237.7 miles and 4h 48m.

Your first comfortable stop window is around 52 miles from The Bronx, NY.
This route can stay practical as a one-day drive if traffic stays reasonable.
Plan about 1 real break rather than only quick fuel stops.
The longest stretch is on NY 17 for about 117.5 miles.

Where to Stop

Rest stops, refuel points, and overnight suggestions along this route.

Halfway Point

Midpoint

About 118.8 mi from The Bronx, NY · 2h 25m into the drive

Downtown New Paltz, NY, NY

Mid-route town

Meal stop

New Paltz, NY

119 mi into the route

Best for: Lunch, fuel, and a longer reset

This sits close to the middle of the route, so it works well for the longest stop of the day.

Pacing Suggestions

Ramapo, NY

Fuel and coffee

A short stop after about 52 miles helps settle the day before fatigue starts building.

Stockport, NY

Meal break

The midpoint is around 118.8 miles from The Bronx, NY, which is a good place for a longer meal and fuel stop.

Before the longest stretch

Fuel check

Top up before NY 17 if your tank is already low. That segment runs about 117.5 miles.

Arriving in New York Mills, NY

The final approach into New York Mills, NY usually feels slower than the middle of the drive, so avoid planning your tightest schedule at the very end.

Try to arrive with enough fuel left to skip an immediate station stop unless you already know the area around New York Mills, NY.

After long uninterrupted mileage, take five minutes before the last urban segment to reset and refocus on exits, merges, and city traffic.

These stop ideas are pacing suggestions — the exact town or exit can change with traffic, hotel plans, and fuel range.

Nearby Places

Restaurants, cafes, gas stations and more along your route.

Top Restaurant

Honey Day Cafe

4.7 ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

Glen Rock, New Jersey

Near the start, short detour

2.8 mi from route ~7 min detour $20 to $30 mile 17

Hours: 8:30 am–3 pm

+12013893535

Visit website

Honey Day Cafe

4.7 ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

Near the start, short detour

2.8 mi from route ~7 min detour $20 to $30 mile 17

Glen Rock, New Jersey

Hours: 8:30 am–3 pm

+12013893535

Visit website

Chuck E. Cheese

4.2 ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆

Near the start, ~9 min detour

3.6 mi from route ~9 min detour Moderately mile 17

Paramus, New Jersey

Hours: 11 am–9 pm

+12014871088

Visit website

Tombolinos Restaurant

4.6 ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

Near the start, ~11 min detour

4.4 mi from route ~11 min detour $30 to $50

Yonkers, New York

Hours: 12–10 pm

+19142371266

Visit website

Sabor Restaurant & Bakery

4.0 ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆

Near the start, ~12 min detour

4.7 mi from route ~12 min detour $10 to $20

College Point, New York

Hours: 6:30 am–10 pm

+13473684407

Visit website

Duaa’s Cafe

4.8 ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

Near the start, ~10 min detour

4 mi from route ~10 min detour $10 to $20

New York, New York

+19172614093

EV Connect Charging Station

5.0 ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

Near the end, right off the route

0.3 mi from route ~1 min detour mile 237.7

Yorkville, New York

+18668167584

Visit website

ChargePoint Charging Station

4.5 ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

Near the end, right off the route

0.7 mi from route ~2 min detour mile 237.7

Yorkville, New York

Hours: Open 24 hours

+18887584389

Visit website

Red E Charging Station

5.0 ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

Near the end, right off the route

0.9 mi from route ~2 min detour mile 237.7

Yorkville, New York

Hours: Open 24 hours

ChargePoint Charging Station

5.0 ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

Near the end, short detour

1.5 mi from route ~4 min detour mile 237.7

New Hartford, New York

Hours: Open 24 hours

+18887584389

Visit website

Electric Vehicle Charging Station

4.0 ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆

Around the midpoint, short detour

1.3 mi from route ~3 min detour mile 152.8

Schenectady, New York

Hours: Open 24 hours

+15183551287

EvGateway Charging Station

3.0 ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

Early in the drive, right off the route

0.7 mi from route ~2 min detour mile 50.9

Mountainville, New York

Hours: Open 24 hours

+19499452000

Visit website

Electrify America Charging Station

3.1 ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

Near the end, short detour

1.7 mi from route ~4 min detour mile 220.7

Herkimer, New York

Hours: Open 24 hours

+18336322778

Visit website

Applegreen Electric Charging Station

5.0 ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

Later in the drive, short detour

2.4 mi from route ~6 min detour mile 169.8

Pattersonville, New York

Hours: Open 24 hours

+18885577099

Visit website

The Family Fun Factory

4.5 ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

Near the end, short detour

1.9 mi from route ~5 min detour mile 237.7

New Hartford, New York

Hours: 11 am–8 pm

+13158648044

Visit website

Billy Beez Sangertown Square

4.3 ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆

Near the end, short detour

1.9 mi from route ~5 min detour mile 237.7

New Hartford, NY

Hours: 11 am–6 pm

+13152353121

Visit website

Claremont Park

4.2 ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆

Near the start, short detour

2.2 mi from route ~6 min detour

Bronx, NY

Hours: 6 am–10 pm

+12126399675

Visit website

The Stanley Theatre

4.7 ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

Near the end, short detour

2.9 mi from route ~7 min detour mile 237.7

Utica, New York

Hours: 11 am–4 pm

+13157244000

Visit website

Roberto Clemente State Park

4.5 ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

Near the start, short detour

2.9 mi from route ~7 min detour

Bronx, New York

Hours: 8:30 am–8:30 pm

+17182998750

Visit website

Utica Children's Museum

4.1 ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆

Near the end, short detour

2.3 mi from route ~6 min detour mile 237.7

Utica, New York

Hours: 10 am–4:30 pm

+13158087529

Visit website

Utica Zoo

4.4 ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆

Near the end, short detour

2.8 mi from route ~7 min detour mile 237.7

Utica, New York

Hours: 10 am–4:30 pm

+13157380472

Visit website

Isham Park

4.7 ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

Near the start, short detour

3 mi from route ~8 min detour

New York, New York

Hours: 6 am–1 pm

+12126399675

Visit website

Place data sourced from public business listings. Hours and availability may vary.

Fuel & Cost

Regular Gas

$39.13 one way

$78.25 round trip

$4.18/gal 25.4 MPG avg 83 kg CO2
Fuel Type $/gal One Way Round Trip
midgrade $4.52 $42.31 $84.62
premium $4.92 $46.07 $92.14
diesel $5.61 $52.48 $104.96

Estimated Tolls: $20.25

George Washington Bridge $16.00
New York State Thruway (85.1 mi) $4.25

Toll estimates based on average 2024-2025 rates. EZ-Pass/SunPass discounts may lower the actual cost.

Estimated Trip Cost (one way, 1 person)

Fuel

$39

Tolls

$20

Meals

$25–$50

Total

$84–$109

Rough estimate based on US averages. Hotel $80–$140/night, meals $25–$50/day.

Estimated CO2 emission: 83.2 kg one way. Prices: EIA weekly data, 2026-04-13.

Driving Electric?

About $25 in charging · 0 stops · 66% less CO2

Vehicle Type kWh Stops DC Fast Home Charge
Average EV 71.3 0 $24.96 $11.41
Efficient EV 59.4 0 $20.80 $9.51
EV Truck/SUV 95.1 1 $33.28 $15.21

Gas CO2

83 kg

EV CO2

28 kg (66% less)

Plan for 0 charging stops, roughly every 270 miles. Allow 25-40 minutes per stop at a DC fast charger.

DC fast charging avg $0.35/kWh. Home charging avg $0.16/kWh. US grid CO2: 0.39 kg/kWh.

Travel Intel

Current conditions at both ends of the drive.

Forecast as of Apr 13, 2026

Origin

The Bronx, NY

Morning in The Bronx on Saturday

Local time

6:44 AM

EDT

Current temp

79°F

Mostly Cloudy

SW 8 to 18 mph 9% chance Live forecast

Wind Advisory

Wind Advisory issued April 13 at 12:55AM EDT until April 13 at 2:00PM EDT by NWS Burlington VT

Flood Warning

Flood Warning issued April 13 at 12:22AM EDT by NWS Binghamton NY

Destination

New York Mills, NY

Morning in New York Mills on Saturday

Local time

6:44 AM

EDT

Current temp

54°F

Unavailable

Live forecast

Seasonal Notes

Summer travel usually means heavier construction, hotter rest stops, and busier weekend traffic around major cities.

Winter travel shortens daylight, so a route that looks manageable on paper can feel much longer after dark.

Holiday weekends tend to make both departure and arrival windows slower than the raw route time suggests.

Time zone

Same local time

Origin and destination are on the same clock, so arrival timing is easier to judge at a glance.

Temperature spread

25 degrees cooler at arrival

A meaningful temperature swing is a good cue to rethink layers, water, and how soon you want to arrive.

Road read

4h 48m on the road

An early start around 7-8 AM gets you there with plenty of daylight left.

Weather data from the National Weather Service. Conditions may change; check closer to your travel date.

Frequently Asked Questions

The drive from The Bronx, NY to New York Mills, NY covers 237.7 miles and takes about 4h 48m without stops. Add 15-30 minutes for a fuel or rest stop on longer drives.

The main roads are NY 17, New York State Thruway, NJ 17. Expect a mix of highway and local road driving.

This is a comfortable same-day trip.

The midpoint is about 118.8 miles from The Bronx, NY. Look for rest areas, gas stations, or food options near the halfway mark.

At current regular gas prices, expect to spend about $39.13 one way. This estimate uses 25.4 MPG — your actual cost will vary with your vehicle's fuel efficiency and current gas prices.

An early start around 7-8 AM gets you there with plenty of daylight left. A late afternoon start means arriving after dark. Morning is better.

Plan about 1 meaningful break for fuel, food, or rest. Plan on a short reset every 3 to 4 hours to stay fresh behind the wheel.

This is a demanding drive. With 26 significant decision points across 237.7 miles, you will need to stay alert - especially through interchange areas and urban stretches. Consider splitting it into segments if you are not comfortable with fast highway navigation.

The main spots that need attention: at 6.8 miles: Exit ramp - move to the correct lane early. Lane positioning matters here. Multiple destination signs - pick the right one; at 7 miles: Highway fork - watch signs carefully. Lane positioning matters here; at 13.8 miles: Exit ramp - move to the correct lane early. Lane positioning matters here. Multiple destination signs - pick the right one.

Between The Bronx, NY and New York Mills, NY, road signs point toward Gsp South, Gsp North, Newark, Mahwah and New York State Thruway North: Albany.

Gently rolling terrain. The route ranges from 53 ft to 625 ft elevation with about 1,311 ft of total climbing.

How this page is built

Compiled by the Trip.ovh planning team at COD Solutions Oy from open government datasets — OSRM over OpenStreetMap for geometry, EIA for fuel prices, and USGS 3DEP for elevation. See our methodology for refresh cadence and limitations.

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